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Challenges Worth Solving with Brady Aaron: TIG Time Welding

Join Tim and Brady on a discussion about the challenges we face today and the demand for welders. Why we are facing this challenge and what we can do to fix it.

Brady Aaron Grissinger has been welding for 16 years. Specifically in TIG Welding for race car parts and all the way up to aerospace components.

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Episode Transcript:

[00:00:00] Tim Chrisman: Hi, my name's Tim Christmann. Welcome to another edition of podcasts for the future. We're here today. Talking about challenges worth solving. Today I'm joined by Brady Aaron who I'll let him give a little bit of an introduction. But as a backstory, Brady's been a welder for what is it?

[00:00:46] 16 years now. And doing what I'm told is the harder welding TIG, welding in doing that everything from race cars, all the way up to aerospace components. But I don't want to, [00:01:00] do too much about you, Brady, you know that, and so I want to hear more about that from you.

[00:01:06] Brady Aaron: Cool. Awesome. Thanks so much, Tim. My name is Brady Aaron Grissinger. I'm a aerospace certified TIG welder. I got into the TIG welding. About 20 years ago, I suppose I've been doing it as a profession for 16 years. I've taken a lot of time with TIG welding. I've been blessed and fortunate to be attached to a company that was producing race car components for Mustangs, aftermarket Mustang, suspension components, specifically from like 1979 to current date months.

[00:01:41] And all the suspension components. That's where my background with started with TIG welding. I started TIG welding doing that specifically, which is pretty cool. Drag racing turned into road racing that turned into, fuel cell components for a lot of the Falcon nine rocket boosters.

[00:01:59] A lot of the [00:02:00] things, just small little components that, when you have this surge of the 901 S. For aerospace components, I got, I do coupon tests every year to where I, I take I got these cool hands of mine that are really steady. And I can really do paper thin welding with it and IP welding, which is the interpenetration x-ray dye tested to where a lot of these components, they're going, full flight, 17,000 plus miles an hour, whatever the case is that they're doing on these, Either rocket even just regular aerospace components for a shelf inside of a 7 37, and I'm just welding the little components and the corners.

[00:02:36] Tim Chrisman: Well said. So let's start with what's TIG, welding for the people who, maybe didn't, I grew up with my dad having a MIG welder in the garage, and so I've got at least. A bit of an understanding on wellbeing, but, I can't do it. I'm going to blind myself and probably burned myself at the same time.

[00:02:56] What exactly is

[00:02:57] Brady Aaron: take welding? TIG? Welding is [00:03:00] Stan it's. It stood for stands for tungsten and or gas. There's a tungsten electrode that melts the metal MIG welding. And then our guests. So it's using a magnesium electrode in order to melt that. And it's infusing metal at the point, what TIG welding, you're taking an electrode of dove, TIG, Oxton side of it, which is stands for TIG, which means tungsten.

[00:03:23] And that tungsten put you put electricity to that substance and that's what's molting and making the metals mold together. So at different variations of temperature. So TIG stands for tungsten inner gas. Yeah. Specifically for smaller tinier spaces, not so dirty of metals, special metals keep the heat in control.

[00:03:47] That's more of the reality is where you can control the heat. MIG, welding, the heat dissipates so much when you're welding with TIG welding, you're able to control the heat on any level because you have a foot pedal that controls that. [00:04:00] Yeah. So you have a foot like, and different aspects of TIG welding.

[00:04:05] You can do brain stuff, anodized, aluminum, which doesn't really require a flip pedal, or it does. There's so many different ways to take weld, but the correct way to do it, that I have been around the industry for myself, has been with a foot pedal or pulse setting. And that's where, for the TIG side of stuff, it is it comes direct from the tungsten side.

[00:04:28] So it's a. An electrode that's where that's from. Yeah.

[00:04:34] Tim Chrisman: Okay. And so this is, you said you started out with cars, high performance cars but welding there, what did you see, different as you transitioned from there to the aerospace welding.

[00:04:48] Brady Aaron: I, I got, that's an awesome question, actually, from racecar to aerospace, it's a whole nother world that tolerances now your plus minus [00:05:00] tolerances on everything, even when you weld it to where, there can't be shifting, it can't work that can't, it can't even turn this way a five thousands when you're welding down this scene.

[00:05:09] So it's, the jigs and every, everything is it's next level, in my opinion, it really is. And that's why, being a part of the motor sports park the industry, and then, after 10 years perfecting my craft and becoming a master certified segway. I was like, all right, it's time to do something in the aerospace world.

[00:05:28] That's what I, my, my brain went from, oh my gosh, go fast race car stuff. Oh, I love this. I'm a racer at heart. So I raced back motorcycles. I raced a lot. So it's a big passion of mine. So that's why I lean towards that. As soon as I got turned on to the aerospace community, man, my whole world opened up my parameters, everything that I thought I knew about welding and TIG, welding, not the case, not schooled

[00:05:56] Tim Chrisman: very well.

[00:05:57] Like

[00:05:58] Brady Aaron: I would like it went from oh [00:06:00] yeah, you're a good welder to no, you're not a good one. And then like you step inside a lot of different facilities where there's just a one company specifically that I do some contractual work for called Aeroflex. They do a lot of fuel housings, and there's a lot of convolution and it's paper thin material to like cable and that all has it's the hardest thing I've ever had to weld.

[00:06:22] And it's pretty awesome actually. So it keeps my talent up. It keeps me on my toes. So that transition the question that you're asking and that transition from being in the motor sports to the aerospace, it is dramatically different, like a lot of very big amount of where the motor sparks the motor sports comes from is from the aerospace industry and all, everything from aerospace.

[00:06:46] And then it gets trickled down. My thought process always was the opposite and it was like, oh,

[00:06:53] Tim Chrisman: And you're talking about you've, we're good. That you thought, Hey, I'm really good at this. Can't be [00:07:00] that, that different. As far as like the mechanics of the welding, though, when you swapped over, was it different in terms of the welding or was it different in terms of the expectations and the sort of quality output you had to

[00:07:15] Brady Aaron: give?

[00:07:16] Yeah. See I'm I was so used to making things look pretty and Ong and make sure it looks pretty and make sure it's okay. It's a production piece. And as obviously, make it be as strong component as possible welded together. Aerospace, you know what the IP side of things, the word it's all.

[00:07:31] It needs to be one and no voids in between nothing. I was so used to, 10 years ago, I was so used to welding. Products that we would just get, and then we'd take a little bit of oil off and then we weld them and then they go on to a Mustang. So it's that double at that point. And it can still look like a great weld, but underneath the x-ray and the dye test, it's not a good like that's where, like that whole transition of learning how to be.

[00:07:58] An inner penetration [00:08:00] welder to where I can get full IPS or I can get x-ray. I can pass dye tests. I can pass all my coupon tests. That's like a whole nother level to where, like the I never did type. So I didn't come from, I don't come from a pipe, welding. I started doing aerospace, sorry.

[00:08:16] Excuse me. I started doing motor sports parts and then I haven't gone up the ladder to the, the aerospace components, pipe welder, but I got, I see a lot of similarities when they do like the six GM 60 certified. Also there's a lot of certs because I keep up, AWS, the American welding society is here out of Miami.

[00:08:35] Yeah, I'm in on beach. So it's there. Their headquarters is in Miami and I constantly keep up on my coupons, which is a very important thing for me to where I can. What are those

[00:08:45] Tim Chrisman: specifically, it sounds like they're almost certification.

[00:08:49] Brady Aaron: That's exactly what they are. So they give you like specific types of metal.

[00:08:52] So you can know a 3, 2, 1 stainless when he wants to in this L just all pretty much, titanium's [00:09:00] kind of parameters of metal. So you have, they give you these coupons and, they'll have the cuts form. They're a little pieces. Then they put them in this. And then they put a break point and they bend them and make sure they're not broke.

[00:09:13] There's a lot of welders know about coupon testing. So in that world, it's pretty cool that I get to constantly stay up on the certs and constantly do that works. It's something a lot of welders don't do, but I always try to tell guys that I've hired that I hire or have. And then like it's a hundred dollars for the AWS program.

[00:09:33] Go sign up. Like it's a very big community you're attached to is huge too. So it's not just aerospace. It's every welder. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:09:44] Tim Chrisman: And, you went into aerospace, welding after years of welding previously, now you've been doing this awhile. Do you see. People coming straight out of community colleges, apprenticeships into this [00:10:00] and how do they fair?

[00:10:02] Brady Aaron: I actually go and I go to a local college called Palm beach state college, and they have maybe there and one of my really good friends, Josh Magwood, he's the instructor, the head instructor there. And that's why I actually go do all my coupons every everywhere with. The amount of kids. It's a lot there's lacking.

[00:10:19] That's, it's a pretty blacking thing right now with the history that it really is. Just be as honest as possible. I would love to see more kids like, and more you're not kids, younger men, gender women, everybody, everybody that would want to get into it. I love how it's being private, tiered it's being pushed into the news.

[00:10:38] So there's a lot of people, that are, they're wearing NASA shirts and they're wearing. Now Walmart has a contract with NASA and it's oh, sweet. Like at least get it into their heads and be like, go work for a private company. You're not necessarily an asset, even a private, just go into the private sector and start that.

[00:10:54] So answer your question. I see. I've actually been really fortunate because I have a [00:11:00] right-hand person that I get to go into these welding facilities and I get to see stuff so I can get the ups and the downs. And there's not many people coming out of the trades industry right now.

[00:11:10] There really isn't, it's a, it's frightening, but then at the same time, it gives people like myself and these platforms to speak on and really try to, here's some people out that actually make good money and work with their hands and change their lives around, get out of their crazy history past.

[00:11:27] But like my, me becoming a welder has made me, A whole human being of society. It's like I grew up in, in a really bad neighborhood in Miami and it's a become what I've become today because of welding and working my ass off with my hands. It speaks volumes.

[00:11:45] And that's the methods that I always want to try to teach the young kids that want to get into this. And there's, I've, haven't looked back since I started welding. And. All across the world and any corner of the world, like literally you could go anywhere in the [00:12:00] world, you could travel anywhere and still have a job and still able to make money and still do your dreams, and that's the part that I love about welding specifically with the kids coming out today. I would, I'd love to put the fire in their ass and I love the, just hear me out for a minute. I actually bring a lot of kids into my. I keep saying kids, but younger do younger. They act it's pretty awesome.

[00:12:24] It's pretty cool. So I'm a father now, too. So it's a bad experience. Yeah, I see these, young men and women, they come in and, they have a lot of, they have a lot of talents, a lot of things, nowadays, people have a lot of talents. I would like to see more of it. So I'm just being repetitive.

[00:12:41] I would like

[00:12:41] Tim Chrisman: to, and, that's, something that's, we've, I've heard a lot as I've gone around to community colleges and talked with them and about their wellbeing programs and others. And, I often hear, and we'll have, there'll be bidding wars for graduates of these crates and.[00:13:00]

[00:13:00] Brady Aaron: That's it,

[00:13:01] Tim Chrisman: They're like we can't get the word out fast enough to, people coming out of high school, people looking to change careers that this is big, this is needed. And I specifically I'm talking space, but they're talking the full range of applications. And yeah, I think you're exactly right that, many times.

[00:13:23] Kids in middle and high school are told, you have to be a computer programmer or an engineer, or, something else like that in order to have a worthwhile or good job, but ultimately welders like you are the ones making things and doing it and creating a good life for themselves.

[00:13:44] Brady Aaron: Yes. Yeah. It tans down like I'm doing. I'm on the water. Like I like my view is like the intercostal and the way the, my lifestyle, because of, just being persistent and I have a boat in the water [00:14:00] behind me. That's mine, you know what I'm saying? I never thought that these things would happen in my life.

[00:14:05] I really took the action and the initiative to do my own company and open up my own company and take, it's been six years. So I I try to tell people that really get into even the aerospace, even doing the work for companies, it's a struggle owning the company, but even that's why I keep contracts with a lot of different companies this year round.

[00:14:23] And just specifically for myself and I go in their facility and I weld for them and I send the contract. But my company took time, it's the biggest blessing that I've ever had for myself taking that leap and not, looking back at that point, I really encourage these young kids big time to do that because you can look at somebody like me that has had every adversity attached and thrown in my way, regardless of like I could, I should have been dead, 20 times and I'm not.

[00:14:54] It's wow, this is incredible. So I'm still here and the. In the metal fabrication for [00:15:00] me has been an awesome way to escape and also make money, a lot of money, like a really good amount of money, like to worry, like retire. Also I'm 37 years old. And I can say that and I'm still on a path to where I can go.

[00:15:16] All right. Like recently I started doing artwork, I got into this whole art sculpture building. I met this guy and he called me and that's a whole nother thing about the welding, it's okay, what nets? It's like what? This week, actually yesterday morning, there's a, I'm in the Palm beach county areas.

[00:15:35] The Palm beach island. There's a lot of very high end residential stuff that I constantly keep up with. And a lot of the contractors. Yeah. I do gates railings louvers, but on a very small basis, but high end stuff ornamental stuff, okay. That house, it's it's these packages that I'm bidding on, they're 1.2, $1.3 million.

[00:15:56] Like I've never thought I would bid on a package of building a gate and a [00:16:00] louver for 1 million books, so it's yeah, like it's like gates, railings, louver, like it's small stuff too. It's very obtainable things to where, I've taken a step back. And then as the business owner side now, as as the owner of the company, it's a blessing.

[00:16:14] It's an awesome blessing to have, so it's pretty cool.

[00:16:17] Tim Chrisman: And I think it's important for kids coming out of high school to see, not only is it. Something that, get you a job and, you can earn a living, but as you grow with it, and as you said, you start a business that you're doing art you're, and still being able to have a life like that is an important message to be delivering that, not just as this something where you grind out every day, all day, but you can use it to further other interests and hobbies.

[00:16:48] Brady Aaron: Yeah, you could work a 40 hour work week and still build your whole entire empire on the side. Like you could still have you could still do, that's kinda what I did. I saved, I worked two jobs for the last 10 years. [00:17:00] I worked doing Mustang components and then I went to another guy's house that had a contract with that same company.

[00:17:06] And he, it was, he was getting paid more for the parts. And I was doing the parts very fast and he was like, Hey, so I've taken that 10 years of monies and I've put it up to the side because I could still pay bills with the first one. I could still do it. There was the parameters open up so much right now.

[00:17:22] And right now at right now, specifically because of the demand, there's such a demand for welders and metal fabricators. And I think it's going to be an ongoing trend for the next 25 years, 20 years. They need people like us. Like it's a dying art. It nobody's taking the stuff up. Like they were in the eighties and nineties and two thousands, like it needs to happen.

[00:17:43] There needs to be that push in my heart of hearts. I want to help push that. It's that's part of my job is like having, being a good certified welder in this community is the teach my skillset to another person. And that's one of my, like when I'm retired and my eyes give out and my lungs get about [00:18:00] whatever, I w I like, I just want to teach at that point, I still teach on a daily basis, but just that whole thing to teach my skillset and to push it to other people and them to be crafting them, they come up with, like the art sculpture that we're building.

[00:18:14] We just sold an art sculpture for $400,000. Yeah. And it was the first art sculpture that I've ever been attached to. Like I've built, it's called the diamond flower and the. It's just a very famous people have been buying it and they've been taking, liking to the art that I'm attached to.

[00:18:30] I, so I've doing this collaboration with this artist named Paul Maggie, and he's hired me to do all his metal work and the ideas he comes up with is just phenomenal. So I've taken the last, 17 months and been building this awesome little cool thing with him and an art studio we've created like some awesome masterpieces.

[00:18:51] Actually has it's he's going to be like really famous in the art world. You're the metal fabricator attached to that stuff. And then it's really cool. The next [00:19:00] direction of where my career is going, I'm actually doing my own sculpture and becoming like my own like sculpture. It's like your mind opens up so much when you're to out when you're attached to just anything metal.

[00:19:13] Oh yeah. And it's we want to build now. It's I don't know, like how do you want to build it? Where's your mind going? Really

[00:19:24] Tim Chrisman: well. And so when you're talking about. These people aren't coming into the welding anymore. There's one of the things we try to talk about here is like challenges worth doing and why are they worth doing?

[00:19:38] And a lot of times people tend to think, oh, solving world hunger or curing a disease, but, oftentimes that's just a flash in the pan and it's the result.

[00:19:48] Brady Aaron: Thousands

[00:19:49] Tim Chrisman: of people solving little challenges. And in this case, Running out of welders means things don't get made. And so it's not just, [00:20:00] oh, we don't have art anymore, which we also will not have as much of this metal art, but we don't, cars aren't being made or they're not being made well.

[00:20:10] And as you're looking out you're at a point you have a company you've got, two decades of doing welding. What can we do different as a, country or just locally there to reinvigorate this? What makes it cool again?

[00:20:26] Brady Aaron: Okay. So I actually, I love what Netflix just did with the metal master show and a lot of people, obviously it's a Netflix show and people, they'll look at it or pass by it, but I actually took it in depth and I know two people that were on that show.

[00:20:39] And I think that as a community, as metal, metal fabricators, welders, and all above just Craftsmen's tradesman it alone. There needs to be something more pushed in the actual school system. In my opinion, the whole taking all the, the shop class out of school was not a good thing in my opinion, because it made everybody lazy.

[00:20:59] Like I [00:21:00] don't want to get into depth of it, but. From my, I was born in 1984, from what I see now to 20 year olds. Now it's like full man. Like not persons, individuals are all different. They'll like I see a trend to where nothing's being taught to them in the youth. So that's where I think we really need to start as a whole, and really get it back into the school system and show.

[00:21:26] Put a welding class and undo a high school and watch so many cool things can be built out of there. And not just one high school, a technical high school, actually every high school, like literally where you can take the youth, like how we did in the sixties, seventies, eighties, and put them in a class and have shop class.

[00:21:43] And like the kids that are going to thrive, we're going to be there all the time. Like the ones that are going to be like myself and other people are going to be listening to this and really good off on it is that. That one little thing or that one thing they heard or seen, it's not there.

[00:21:59] So [00:22:00] it's all I don't even know about it. You have, and it's oh it's it's, I've me. I meet a lot of young kids lately. And they're like you weld. Oh, I never knew. And it's whoa. So like they have been exposed to it. So that, those me like, dude, this shit's got to get back into. And to a school then that's where it needs to start.

[00:22:19] Like legislations, whatever that needs to happen. It needs to start from the top, and then whoever the, the big wigs and then go, let it trickle down to. So the kids, I really feel like I have two young boys that I'm going to be, my whole, I have my five-year-old right now, already with the MIG welder, like tack this child label on labor law or whatever.

[00:22:43] It's it's like, you need to learn these things regardless, even if. This is just my opinion. So they're around it all the time and I can see how they look at things a lot different young kids that have grown up in that stuff. They thrive, they, they really do. They don't struggle.

[00:22:57] They don't thrive. They don't have the problems half [00:23:00] America does.

[00:23:00] Tim Chrisman: And just the fact that, kids would be exposed to the fact that, welding is something they can do. And it's not just some magic thing that happens for anything metal that they hold.

[00:23:11] Exactly. And that's the case with a lot of different things, especially related to space that, kids are. From three or four until probably 10, they're constantly bothering their parents. I want to go to space. I want to do space and parents say the equivalent of sure. When you get a unicorn, you can go to space.

[00:23:32] It's just because they don't, aren't exposed to it. And very similar to this. And yeah, I think having that exposure at an early level because you're saying your five-year-old's doing MIG welding like it's doable, this isn't something that you need a advanced degree for, to just play around and see whether you like it or not.

[00:23:54] Brady Aaron: Yeah. It's awesome too. It's It's a, it's not rocket science. Actually it is [00:24:00] derivative from rocket science. So you can beat this, you can do it's pretty cool to see, it's I love this whole new push of the private sector. And then these people start, the private sector starts putting.

[00:24:15] Monies into the school system and putting, like shop class back into there. So we're there. Their company has been thriving at that point. It can't always be automated. It can't always be, it's and you have to run the machines that are automated. So you I've got to understand them more than anything.

[00:24:28] So what that is pick up a welder. Put things together and glue some things together. It is just gluing metal together at the end of the day. That's what it is. It's not a, it's not hard. It's not difficult. It's messy, it's dirty. But in the TIG welding side of things, it's not, it's very clean and you get an AC, take the photo.

[00:24:49] That's very clean and you sit at a table and you weld it and you got AC behind you. And a whole nice environment. It's a whole. At grungy work and all the aerospace industry is very [00:25:00] awesome. That's what turned me into it. I'm in a race car and I'm in a garage for so many years, getting dirty every day.

[00:25:06] And then I go into that transition to aerospace where I'm white club and everything. And it's this is crazy.

[00:25:12] Tim Chrisman: Yeah, no, I grew up my dad was a roughneck in Texas. And so that's dirty. That's right there.

[00:25:19] What you're talking about. That sounds bricky nice. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.

[00:25:24] Brady Aaron: And that's the thing is, I always tell people, like even young kids that I meet. Oh man. That's so cool. That's so cool. What are you doing lately? And then they tell him I'm not, I'm not sure. Go weld. Like we're coming to my shop and I'll teach you a welding class real quick, and like just put them onto something, and then that way it's not a, it's like they have some sort of light, they have something to see, like a lot of people just see stuff on television and it's all digital nowadays. And it's not, it is not. No, they don't have the hands on experience. And that's why I really think it [00:26:00] should get back into the school system and a public school system, not just, the words and everything.

[00:26:05] It's just I really believe that it should happen. People should start pushing

[00:26:11] and I, it's something that seems like more attention is starting to develop around that idea that. STEM is important, the arts are important, but that doesn't mean we neglect the trades.

[00:26:25] That doesn't mean we did neglect everything else because once we do that, then we run into the same situation. We were in the nineties where we couldn't find an engineer and now we've just moved the problem somewhere else. And it's, that's a. Cycle. So let's

[00:26:43] stop that. Yeah. Seriously.

[00:26:47] Yeah.

[00:26:48] Tim Chrisman: So yeah. We've got a couple more minutes here. And so you had mentioned a little bit about running a company. What was it that sort of got you on that track? [00:27:00] And yeah.

[00:27:02] Brady Aaron: All right. So I was working for people for a long time. And like any human beings, we take our minds to do different and, being a welder and fabricator, that is one of the best things about it is you can just open up, shop on your own and say, Hey, we'll fabrication and welding here at this location right here.

[00:27:26] Nine times. Your phone's not going to stop ringing. I had to stop taking advertisements lately, which is really a good thing to have, or it's not taking, stop advertising. Cause it was just it's ridiculous. Like I can't keep up with it. So it's oh, like I'm booked for a year and a half.

[00:27:42] Stop just please. You know what? I'm still looking at like higher projects that are a couple of years out, but it's still, it's a constant. Constant every day, focus that a lot of people and a lot of things [00:28:00] that I've seen a lot of business owners like myself it's a, it's an whole nother breed of person really it's I've stepped into that realm of oh, all right.

[00:28:09] Now I'm the owner and operator and everything, and all the end, all be all. And how do I make this happen? It's been six years now and it's definitely had its ups and downs and corners and this way and that way, and be pulled in every direction and what to do and how to do it. I still wouldn't change anything forward cause I still have my flexibility of my schedule and I can take my kids to school.

[00:28:32] I can pick my kids up to school whenever they, whenever. However, when. Obviously, depending on what I got going on in the shop, I wanted that freedom of whatever, I sat and worked in a chair and welded parts and did things for so long for so many different companies. I just, I wanted the shine on my own and I wanted to be the boss and I wanted to have all the accountability on me and not just show up and weld and take a paycheck.

[00:28:59] I [00:29:00] wanted to make the paycheck and make it all happen. And yeah. I felt like I can not just have the one company that can do multiples and I can do this. And like I can figure out, I just started seeing things on a different mindset, which you know, is people call me an entrepreneur, but I don't really feel that way because I'm always dabbling, with the art stuff right now.

[00:29:21] Like I've taken it off. Created all this stuff from my buddy and I've walked in these galleries and I treat it as a business and it took off it really took that they became really, he's becoming really famous because of it. And it's pretty cool to see. Is as cool as the art is my 15 years of producing and being.

[00:29:42] Attached to all the production and the aerospace and race car components is why I'm doing artwork. Stuff is fine art. So it has to be the best of the best and look like phenomenal. So to bring that skill set, it's taken 50, it's taken 15 years in order to do that skillset. So I, as the [00:30:00] owner of the company I love it.

[00:30:03] I don't hate it. I love it. I really do. Yeah. I love being accountable for everything. From the time that I wake up to the time I hit the time that I hit the bed and that the money is no matter what paychecks that I have to cut or wherever it's at, it's on me. And that responsibility for me is a huge, awesome thing that I wake up every morning.

[00:30:26] And a lot of it, I've heard a lot of people don't want that responsibility, but when you're a welder fabricator, It could just be you and like a couple other people, and it doesn't have to be a huge crew of guys. You can stick, still make a couple million a year and still have a lifestyle and a couple houses and a boat in the water and this and that and this.

[00:30:45] And like you don't, it doesn't have to be this whole thing. That's drawn up. It can be very small scale and you can still have a very good. Yeah. And even working for a company, I encourage people to come work for a company before anything. Cause I, I worked for [00:31:00] somebody for 15 years.

[00:31:00] Don't just open up shop. It's okay, I've been there, even six years into it, I still have my ups and downs, regardless of how it's going. It's still, you got deadlines, you have, problems, things occurred. There's a lot of stuff that it's, as the owner, it falls on me oh yeah, no, it's definitely.

[00:31:18] It's an, it's a great thing for me to have in my life. I can manage it and do all those things and you don't have the family and we have little toddlers. So that alone is, my wife, she's the powerhouse, how do you take, how does that, little toddlers, two little boys with a law that is that's work.

[00:31:39] Right now it's like, all right, that's easy. Okay. That's easy. And then raising kids and human beings.

[00:31:47] Tim Chrisman: Yeah. No for sure. Yeah. I think we're going to have to cut it there. It was great talking with you today. Thank you so much.

[00:31:55] Brady Aaron: You both appreciate it. Yeah.

[00:31:57] Tim Chrisman: Yeah, this has been a [00:32:00] podcast for the future.

[00:32:00] We're here with Brady Grissinger did I say that right this time? All right. Owner of TIG time. Check them out. What you guys, his

[00:32:08] Brady Aaron: website. and then you can also check us out. Check us out on Instagram, TIG time on Instagram. Alrighty.

[00:32:17] Tim Chrisman: We'll send people there or make sure to include the link.

[00:32:20] Thank you so much, Brady.

[00:32:22] Brady Aaron: Thank you guys. Have a good day.

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